nitinboston
05-14 09:21 AM
I am thankful to everyone who read or responded even if you don't agree. Taking it a step furthur there are couple of things that stand out which i think again show how we twist every fact to our advantage.
1) US need immigration to grow and prosper. wel agreed, but who are we to preach. Its for American to figure it out. We don't care for our mother land i:e India but we are first to point out how US will be worse off if it stops immigration. I really doubt the intention here. You know, we care more bout US then India and once we get our GC we probably wont care much bout US either.
2) Saying its a fight for rights and if we don't fight we are cowards. well i agree we are all cowards not because we are not fighting to bring forward all mighty priority dates but because we showed our backs to our own country. We went to public funded IIT and other institutions and then ran away from our nation at first chance. So yes, in a way we are all cowards here.
3) USCIS should be fair to India. If you look closely, USCIS rules are not country specific. Quota applies to every country, but only India, Mexico and china exhaust theirs. Does tell u something doesn't it.
1) US need immigration to grow and prosper. wel agreed, but who are we to preach. Its for American to figure it out. We don't care for our mother land i:e India but we are first to point out how US will be worse off if it stops immigration. I really doubt the intention here. You know, we care more bout US then India and once we get our GC we probably wont care much bout US either.
2) Saying its a fight for rights and if we don't fight we are cowards. well i agree we are all cowards not because we are not fighting to bring forward all mighty priority dates but because we showed our backs to our own country. We went to public funded IIT and other institutions and then ran away from our nation at first chance. So yes, in a way we are all cowards here.
3) USCIS should be fair to India. If you look closely, USCIS rules are not country specific. Quota applies to every country, but only India, Mexico and china exhaust theirs. Does tell u something doesn't it.
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lost_in_migration
06-21 05:32 PM
If you are filing on 1st July then you shud not leave US till you get your receipt notice. With the current processing timelines it is very unlikely that you will get your receipt notice b4 20th July. So hold on till 14th July for next visa-bulletin. If dates are current even in Aug, which is most likely the case, then do your filing in August, else return back b4 July end and file 485
Hi, friends,
I need help from you guys I am getting married on 20th july and then coming back on 3rd august, so can I just apply for myself on 1stjuly and then add her after we come back . Is this possible.. what say experts?
Thanks in advance ,
Hi, friends,
I need help from you guys I am getting married on 20th july and then coming back on 3rd august, so can I just apply for myself on 1stjuly and then add her after we come back . Is this possible.. what say experts?
Thanks in advance ,
ramaonline
04-28 01:41 PM
In ac21 law; it doesn't say anything about the scenario if 140 is revoked by employer. It is totally silent to it.
AFAIK:
AC21 is not a law, just a guidance. Assume an immigration case goes to court hearing, the judge would completely ignore AC21 guidelines. Any employment per AC21 will be considered unlawful in this case. The probability of a case going to court is not very common though.
The above is just FYI.. You can google for more info.
AFAIK:
AC21 is not a law, just a guidance. Assume an immigration case goes to court hearing, the judge would completely ignore AC21 guidelines. Any employment per AC21 will be considered unlawful in this case. The probability of a case going to court is not very common though.
The above is just FYI.. You can google for more info.
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walking_dude
11-20 10:12 AM
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cbadari99
08-14 05:18 PM
Completely agree with you.
bklog_sufferer
06-07 08:59 AM
Well said logiclife, I can't agree with you anymore and must say that I thoroughly enjoy reading your posts.:)
Is immigration a right? ABSOLUTELY.
Well, over the past few months we have heard a lot of sound bites like �Immigration is a privilege, not a right�. �We are a country of immigrants but we are also a country of laws.� We will see about that in moment when we look at history and find out how lawful immigration has historically been.
Let�s focus on one thing sorely missing from our community: The sense of entitlement.
A lot of employment based immigrants in this country, legally here, on H1, L1, J1 etc. have asked themselves, �What right do I have to ask for change in laws or relief from congress? I am not even a citizen. Lobby congress? As an alien? Are you kidding me? Do you want to get deported? Do you realize you are going �against� the Government?�
Therein comes the lack of sense of entitlement.
First of all, legally speaking, there is no distinction between the constitutional rights of citizens and the constitutional rights of those who are non-citizens � legal or illegal. (Non-citizens are also called �aliens�, but I refrain from using that word whenever I remember coz none of us look like characters of Star Wars and we are not green-headed animals with 6 limbs, so I don�t consider myself an alien just because I was born somewhere else on the same planet).
Second of all, as a person within the jurisdiction of the United States, the first amendment actually prohibits the congress from making any laws against stated rights � one of which is the right to petition the Government for redress of grievances. So not only its legal to do what we are doing, it unconstitutional to pass a law to make it illegal for us to petition (or lobby, advocate, litigate) government for a redress of grievances. And that first amendment isn�t changing, coz to change it, its going to need two-thirds of US congress and three-fourths of states to back it. And we all know, how lucky we are to have 51 senators agree on the fact that sun rises from the east.
Earned Right or Birthright?
The fact that you are here and you are here legally and working with the system to earn immigration is something you should be proud of. Not guilty of. If you treat yourself as guests, the government will treat you like a guest. I would rather treat myself two times the citizen. Why, coz it simply much harder to earn a citizenship than to be born into it. I believe that not only we deserve fair and speedy immigration, but also when we do become citizens we should have the privilege to give two votes in elections. Now, I am not trying to display chutzpah here. I am going to back up my claim with reason. See, a lot of us came here 5-10 years ago with almost no money. Many of us never received any formal education in America. However, we have been able to survive and keep a job in this country, even during the stock market crash of 2001 and the economic recession after that. No small feat. We are the last ones to leave the office at night (Actually, that is true for both legal and illegal workers, coz the legal computer programmer is still coding Java at 7:00 PM while the illegal janitor starts vacuuming the office). We relocate across states as-if its relocating 2 traffic lights away. We adapt to different employers, we adapt to all employers. And all these without driving down the wages. Yes, it�s true. We don�t depress the wages and we don�t steal jobs and the labor certification is designed to prevent that and it�s working. We all know how great its working and how intense the process is, especially those who are stuck in Philly and Dallas backlog creation centers.
So, to sum it up, we have twice to right to petition the government for a redress of grievances, twice the right to everything. It�s an earned right, not a birthright. Our natural instinct should be to exercise the rights we have earned. If we cannot do it now, we are not going to really make anything out of citizenship of Greencard that we are pursuing.
And coming back to the sound bites about privileges and �Nation of laws� coming out of Washington today, let me say this: The pilgrims, who dropped anchor near Cape Cod in 1620 didn�t go through a port of entry and get their passports stamped and their I-94s stapled. I don�t think the Indians were waiting at the coast of Virginia to stop immigrants. They just came. And they settled. And they called it home. No priority dates. No visa bulletins.
So you see, what really matters here is whether you feel you are entitled to something or not. If you don�t feel entitled to a fair immigration process that does justice to those who seek legal ways to immigration, then you probably aren�t entitled. To ask for something, you must first believe that you deserve it. And to show that you deserve it, you must ask it loudly and clearly from rooftops. Don�t predict visa bulletins, but work to change and influence the visa bulletin 6 months from now. And no, you wont be deported for exercising that constitutional right.
�Our ancestors ... possessed a right, which nature has given to all men, of departing from the country in which chance, not choice has placed them.�
� Thomas Jefferson (1743�1826, 3d President of the United States, author of the Declaration of Independence)
Is immigration a right? ABSOLUTELY.
Well, over the past few months we have heard a lot of sound bites like �Immigration is a privilege, not a right�. �We are a country of immigrants but we are also a country of laws.� We will see about that in moment when we look at history and find out how lawful immigration has historically been.
Let�s focus on one thing sorely missing from our community: The sense of entitlement.
A lot of employment based immigrants in this country, legally here, on H1, L1, J1 etc. have asked themselves, �What right do I have to ask for change in laws or relief from congress? I am not even a citizen. Lobby congress? As an alien? Are you kidding me? Do you want to get deported? Do you realize you are going �against� the Government?�
Therein comes the lack of sense of entitlement.
First of all, legally speaking, there is no distinction between the constitutional rights of citizens and the constitutional rights of those who are non-citizens � legal or illegal. (Non-citizens are also called �aliens�, but I refrain from using that word whenever I remember coz none of us look like characters of Star Wars and we are not green-headed animals with 6 limbs, so I don�t consider myself an alien just because I was born somewhere else on the same planet).
Second of all, as a person within the jurisdiction of the United States, the first amendment actually prohibits the congress from making any laws against stated rights � one of which is the right to petition the Government for redress of grievances. So not only its legal to do what we are doing, it unconstitutional to pass a law to make it illegal for us to petition (or lobby, advocate, litigate) government for a redress of grievances. And that first amendment isn�t changing, coz to change it, its going to need two-thirds of US congress and three-fourths of states to back it. And we all know, how lucky we are to have 51 senators agree on the fact that sun rises from the east.
Earned Right or Birthright?
The fact that you are here and you are here legally and working with the system to earn immigration is something you should be proud of. Not guilty of. If you treat yourself as guests, the government will treat you like a guest. I would rather treat myself two times the citizen. Why, coz it simply much harder to earn a citizenship than to be born into it. I believe that not only we deserve fair and speedy immigration, but also when we do become citizens we should have the privilege to give two votes in elections. Now, I am not trying to display chutzpah here. I am going to back up my claim with reason. See, a lot of us came here 5-10 years ago with almost no money. Many of us never received any formal education in America. However, we have been able to survive and keep a job in this country, even during the stock market crash of 2001 and the economic recession after that. No small feat. We are the last ones to leave the office at night (Actually, that is true for both legal and illegal workers, coz the legal computer programmer is still coding Java at 7:00 PM while the illegal janitor starts vacuuming the office). We relocate across states as-if its relocating 2 traffic lights away. We adapt to different employers, we adapt to all employers. And all these without driving down the wages. Yes, it�s true. We don�t depress the wages and we don�t steal jobs and the labor certification is designed to prevent that and it�s working. We all know how great its working and how intense the process is, especially those who are stuck in Philly and Dallas backlog creation centers.
So, to sum it up, we have twice to right to petition the government for a redress of grievances, twice the right to everything. It�s an earned right, not a birthright. Our natural instinct should be to exercise the rights we have earned. If we cannot do it now, we are not going to really make anything out of citizenship of Greencard that we are pursuing.
And coming back to the sound bites about privileges and �Nation of laws� coming out of Washington today, let me say this: The pilgrims, who dropped anchor near Cape Cod in 1620 didn�t go through a port of entry and get their passports stamped and their I-94s stapled. I don�t think the Indians were waiting at the coast of Virginia to stop immigrants. They just came. And they settled. And they called it home. No priority dates. No visa bulletins.
So you see, what really matters here is whether you feel you are entitled to something or not. If you don�t feel entitled to a fair immigration process that does justice to those who seek legal ways to immigration, then you probably aren�t entitled. To ask for something, you must first believe that you deserve it. And to show that you deserve it, you must ask it loudly and clearly from rooftops. Don�t predict visa bulletins, but work to change and influence the visa bulletin 6 months from now. And no, you wont be deported for exercising that constitutional right.
�Our ancestors ... possessed a right, which nature has given to all men, of departing from the country in which chance, not choice has placed them.�
� Thomas Jefferson (1743�1826, 3d President of the United States, author of the Declaration of Independence)
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pappu
04-19 02:09 PM
There is also a very good thread you should view.
http://tinyurl.com/2dego7
http://tinyurl.com/2dego7
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walking_dude
12-03 11:14 AM
IMO, this is the biggest problem plaguing IV - perception of IV as just another online forum (community) or a "chat room" as a newspaper reporter put it ! (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071123/NEWS07/711230422/1009) (under the heading "Taking Action").
This point IV = chat room has come to the fore, several times in discussions. A lot of persons have refused to join IV efforts with the ruse "IV is just an online forum where members discuss mundane matters". Whether someone admits it or not, IV has a serious image problem !. It needs to be corrected soon (by more than making another announcement type "We are not a forum" post !)
Strength of an(y) organization comes from contributing, active members. And not from MINOWs (Members-In-Name-Only Wusses)
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Strength of online communities is always the members...the higher the members the better.
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This point IV = chat room has come to the fore, several times in discussions. A lot of persons have refused to join IV efforts with the ruse "IV is just an online forum where members discuss mundane matters". Whether someone admits it or not, IV has a serious image problem !. It needs to be corrected soon (by more than making another announcement type "We are not a forum" post !)
Strength of an(y) organization comes from contributing, active members. And not from MINOWs (Members-In-Name-Only Wusses)
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Strength of online communities is always the members...the higher the members the better.
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vxg
09-15 04:56 PM
When I call NSC they tell there status says whatever is on website, Only thing she did opened SR. And I have not heard anything on that....I took info pass ...same thing...The lady on NSC says she can not even see my Priority Date ..
I call 1-800-375-5283....then I press 1 for english.....then option 2 .....Press 1
Call the service center where your case is (Texas or nebraska) not NSC.
I call 1-800-375-5283....then I press 1 for english.....then option 2 .....Press 1
Call the service center where your case is (Texas or nebraska) not NSC.
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new2gc
09-17 12:02 PM
See how Numbers USA propaganda
They are saying these bills grant Amnesty.
I pity them.
GOD BLESS AMERICA
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/
Please contact your U.S. Representative through the Capitol Switchboard (202-224-3121) and ask him/her to do everything possible to stop the passage of three bills in the House Judiciary Committee today: H.R. 5882, a bill that would add an additional 550,000 permanent green cards; H.R. 5924, which would add 20,000 additional foreign nurses per year for three years (plus their families); and H.R. 6020, which would grant amnesty to the illegal-alien spouses, children, brothers, sisters and parents of all 23 million U.S. military veterans
Can we sue this guy from NumbersUSA for misguiding American public and creating hatred against immigrants ?
They are saying these bills grant Amnesty.
I pity them.
GOD BLESS AMERICA
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/
Please contact your U.S. Representative through the Capitol Switchboard (202-224-3121) and ask him/her to do everything possible to stop the passage of three bills in the House Judiciary Committee today: H.R. 5882, a bill that would add an additional 550,000 permanent green cards; H.R. 5924, which would add 20,000 additional foreign nurses per year for three years (plus their families); and H.R. 6020, which would grant amnesty to the illegal-alien spouses, children, brothers, sisters and parents of all 23 million U.S. military veterans
Can we sue this guy from NumbersUSA for misguiding American public and creating hatred against immigrants ?
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Vexir
06-10 03:11 PM
Uh, can I redo my entry?
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smuggymba
01-11 03:20 PM
thank u thank u thank u..... please pray for me..... it might work where dos has has failed since sep-09, just 19 days away..... i promise to not bother u after i get my gc.... did i rub u the wrong way in the past
seriously dude, you're a time waster. I have seen only a couple of posts where you have advised members without abusing, denigrating them or wasting their time by your useless comments. I have asked you many time to either help or stay away but you seem to find pleasure in digressing the topic and wasting time. I hope you're gone for good and don't return with a fake ID after you get your GC.
When I first saw your profile, your PD was different, now it's EB05, which makes me believe that your avatar is bound to haunt this website for years to come in one ID or the other. Anyway best of luck.
seriously dude, you're a time waster. I have seen only a couple of posts where you have advised members without abusing, denigrating them or wasting their time by your useless comments. I have asked you many time to either help or stay away but you seem to find pleasure in digressing the topic and wasting time. I hope you're gone for good and don't return with a fake ID after you get your GC.
When I first saw your profile, your PD was different, now it's EB05, which makes me believe that your avatar is bound to haunt this website for years to come in one ID or the other. Anyway best of luck.
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rkg000
04-20 05:26 PM
Keep cribing all you want. EB3-EB2 upgrade is a reality and is here to stay
Wait till you anti upgraders see June 2011 bulletin :D:D:
Maybe EB3 2005 will clear from the system before E2 2008/9/10
'm glad you didn't mention 2006. :D
Wait till you anti upgraders see June 2011 bulletin :D:D:
Maybe EB3 2005 will clear from the system before E2 2008/9/10
'm glad you didn't mention 2006. :D
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vine95050
12-09 11:56 AM
Thank you guys, thank you all for your congratulations!
When can you file WOM? It's a grey area. When the Name Check has been pending for more than 2 years like in my situation, then you definitely have "a case". However, I have heard that some people do it after "only" one year.
Impossible to tell really when it's the "best" time to do it...
Thanks for your response. Do you know of the law that tells you minimum days after which one can file WOM? Probably not.. Thanks anyway and enjoy the ride.
When can you file WOM? It's a grey area. When the Name Check has been pending for more than 2 years like in my situation, then you definitely have "a case". However, I have heard that some people do it after "only" one year.
Impossible to tell really when it's the "best" time to do it...
Thanks for your response. Do you know of the law that tells you minimum days after which one can file WOM? Probably not.. Thanks anyway and enjoy the ride.
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cashah19
06-15 09:12 AM
[QUOTE=manojp4]You cannot do CP for your spouse unless your I-485 is approved (an immigrant visa number is available for you). That is why the adjustment of status within the US is so much more preferable for most people - it lets you and the spouse get the EAD and start working without waiting for the approval of your GC.
Thanks manojp4, appreciate your help. Just to clarify my doubt, she would need to file a 485 anyhow, before the dates retrogress again, right. Would it matter if I included her name in my filing, along with the marriage certificate. I guess all I am trying to understand is I know 100% that I will be married before I file, would that help her in anyway, lets say if the dates retrogress in August and she cannot file till then.
Thanks manojp4, appreciate your help. Just to clarify my doubt, she would need to file a 485 anyhow, before the dates retrogress again, right. Would it matter if I included her name in my filing, along with the marriage certificate. I guess all I am trying to understand is I know 100% that I will be married before I file, would that help her in anyway, lets say if the dates retrogress in August and she cannot file till then.
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jnraajan
03-14 10:42 AM
Do you belong to a state chapter?
if you don't can you please join a state chapter?
I sent a request to Kansas City Chapter to join. No response yet.
If a state chapter does not exist in your area can you form one?
I am trying to start a chapter here. I have already enlisted the help of few friends.
Can you recruit new members to be part of state chapters?
I have been doing that for quite some time. I dont know the success rate yet. My wife is part of a group which organizes Potlucks every other week. I take that opportunity to educate people about IV and the need to join it.
Can you motivate newbies to be active?
I can try.
Can you meet your Local Lawmakers and talk about your issues?
I have already met with NE Senator on a couple of occasions including for the admin fixes campaign.
Can you make a contribution to IV?
I have
Can you motivate other IV'ans to contribute?
I will
Please put ome thoughts on the above and come up with Ideas?. If you need help please PM any of us and we will be happy to help you.
Regarding conributions, I know it is probably going to meet with some resistance from other members, but we can organize a membership drive week. Any current member signing up most members during that week can be rewarded in some way. The reward need not me monetary, because people are not here for money. So, the reward can be some sort of memento.
As far as contributions are concerned, there are many ways to raise money in this country like Raffles, Fund raising by selling some products. (See how Boys and Girls Scouts sells cookies.) and so on.
None of these is impossible. Remember, there is no such thing called IMPOSSIBLE, because the word itself says, I'MPOSSIBLE.
Thanks
if you don't can you please join a state chapter?
I sent a request to Kansas City Chapter to join. No response yet.
If a state chapter does not exist in your area can you form one?
I am trying to start a chapter here. I have already enlisted the help of few friends.
Can you recruit new members to be part of state chapters?
I have been doing that for quite some time. I dont know the success rate yet. My wife is part of a group which organizes Potlucks every other week. I take that opportunity to educate people about IV and the need to join it.
Can you motivate newbies to be active?
I can try.
Can you meet your Local Lawmakers and talk about your issues?
I have already met with NE Senator on a couple of occasions including for the admin fixes campaign.
Can you make a contribution to IV?
I have
Can you motivate other IV'ans to contribute?
I will
Please put ome thoughts on the above and come up with Ideas?. If you need help please PM any of us and we will be happy to help you.
Regarding conributions, I know it is probably going to meet with some resistance from other members, but we can organize a membership drive week. Any current member signing up most members during that week can be rewarded in some way. The reward need not me monetary, because people are not here for money. So, the reward can be some sort of memento.
As far as contributions are concerned, there are many ways to raise money in this country like Raffles, Fund raising by selling some products. (See how Boys and Girls Scouts sells cookies.) and so on.
None of these is impossible. Remember, there is no such thing called IMPOSSIBLE, because the word itself says, I'MPOSSIBLE.
Thanks
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polapragada
04-28 09:19 AM
Any idea when this is going for voting?
Democrats are supporting this or not?
Democrats are supporting this or not?
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snathan
03-29 04:32 PM
If you really want to hit him hard call ICE as well and let them know. If there are similar testimonials from several employees, he is done
If he is calling ICE...only the employees are going to get affected. As the employer is already on GC or USC, he will be slapped with fine. Nothing else. So the best option is DOL and not the ICE.
If he is calling ICE...only the employees are going to get affected. As the employer is already on GC or USC, he will be slapped with fine. Nothing else. So the best option is DOL and not the ICE.
gkebiz
01-14 10:25 PM
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I have written directly to the President-elect Barack Obama in response to an invitation to contribute to his Citizen Briefing Book in his change.gov website.
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I have written directly to the President-elect Barack Obama in response to an invitation to contribute to his Citizen Briefing Book in his change.gov website.
PLEASE GO to this link and VOTE for this article in order that it may be taken up by the Charter to be presented to the President. Click here ---
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Leo07
05-23 03:41 PM
When you call the law makers and tell them you support XYZ bill.. my question is what do you get out of it!
When the lawmaker realizes that he is getting 10000 calls from LEGAL aliens,
>who are not from his constituency,
>who can�t vote and
>who can�t contribute to his election campaign�
what is the motivation for the law maker to support the bill�
So to avoid sounding stupid and foolish and desperate when you call� a more logical approach would be to :
a) Generate a public petition form on IV website and have all the members� login and sign the forms digitally�
b) Then have IV reps.. fax them and send them to lobby groups �.
c) Lawmakers will listen to one talking head�and not worry abt 1000 calls that borders on ..�saar �support the bill saar�..
How many of you have actually talked to the lawmakers? Its always the assistant!
But instead .. someone says we have a signed petition of 25000 members effected by immigration mess �. And it�s a hi tech workers lobby group ..every lawmaker will talk to you and not the assistant!
Conclusion: calling the lawmakers haphazardly is actually hurting IV cause..to a certain extent!
:cool:
Do what you got to do and let others do what they think is right. I don't think there is one Success mantra here...because we are yet to be successful.
Honestly, I agree with you...but the underlying fact is some people get motivated for calling the senators and some for anonymous fax/email/flowers and some for rallies. There is definitely a subset who does all...but unless you are a Gandhi/MLK/JFK/Mandela....it's hard to drive people in one route.
Just a thought...
When the lawmaker realizes that he is getting 10000 calls from LEGAL aliens,
>who are not from his constituency,
>who can�t vote and
>who can�t contribute to his election campaign�
what is the motivation for the law maker to support the bill�
So to avoid sounding stupid and foolish and desperate when you call� a more logical approach would be to :
a) Generate a public petition form on IV website and have all the members� login and sign the forms digitally�
b) Then have IV reps.. fax them and send them to lobby groups �.
c) Lawmakers will listen to one talking head�and not worry abt 1000 calls that borders on ..�saar �support the bill saar�..
How many of you have actually talked to the lawmakers? Its always the assistant!
But instead .. someone says we have a signed petition of 25000 members effected by immigration mess �. And it�s a hi tech workers lobby group ..every lawmaker will talk to you and not the assistant!
Conclusion: calling the lawmakers haphazardly is actually hurting IV cause..to a certain extent!
:cool:
Do what you got to do and let others do what they think is right. I don't think there is one Success mantra here...because we are yet to be successful.
Honestly, I agree with you...but the underlying fact is some people get motivated for calling the senators and some for anonymous fax/email/flowers and some for rallies. There is definitely a subset who does all...but unless you are a Gandhi/MLK/JFK/Mandela....it's hard to drive people in one route.
Just a thought...
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